Out of the Woods is a funny name for a blog…really for anything for that matter.  Naturally, it is a medium to express what is coming out of us: the Woods.  But more than that, this blog is a means of expressing things that have long stirred in us.  A way of living.  A way of seeing.   A way of experiencing spirituality, life, and community.

We live in an increasingly complex spiritual landscape.  And although we don’t have it all figured out, we long to share our lives and experience in a way that would hopefully provide a depth of meaning and point toward clarity when it comes to living an authentic, full life.  We write at the intersection of Spirituality, Culture, and Everyday Life.

Through sharing our lives, telling stories, and offering our insights and commentary on living, we hope to awaken spirituality, empower, speak hope, point out meaning and life where we see it, and speak into the beautiful reality and calling of what it means to be a human.

Jen is the co-founder of Redemption Church, which she and Phil planted together in 2008.  She continues to partner with Phil in serving and leading the church community today.   Jen stays at home with their 3 wild and fun boys:  Carter, Brady and Kaleb and also works part-time for Vanguard University and Concordia University’s Credential programs assessing Teaching Performance Assessments for future teachers.  Jen has a Masters in Teaching from University of California Irvine and a Bachelor’s in Literature from Point Loma Nazarene University.

Born and raised in Southern California, Jen loves the beach, spending time with loved ones and being active.  She believes wholeheartedly in living life to it’s fullest and that following God is the greatest adventure you could ever experience.


Phil is the Lead Pastor of Redemption Church in Costa Mesa, which he and Jen originally founded in 2008.  He is passionate about seeing people awakened to the power and presence of God in their lives and in empowering them in their spiritual journey.  Phil has a Masters in Divinity from Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, CA as well as a Bachelors in Psychology from Point Loma Nazarene University in San Diego, CA and has worked in church and para-church organizations since 2002.

Phil enjoys being active and is a serious hobbiest, which means he obsesses on new interests constantly- currently it’s surfing, reading, crossfit, coffee, and blogging.  He and Jen live in Southern California with their three boys: Kaleb, Brady, and Carter.